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March 05, 2006
Zawahri lambastes West over Prophet cartoons
CAIRO, Egypt (AP) -- Al-Qaida's No. 2 leader Ayman al-Zawahri criticized the West for its insult to Islam's prophet, complaining in a video broadcast Sunday on Al-Jazeera that the Prophet Mohammed and Jesus "are not sacred anymore."
Referring to the cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad that have been printed in a number of European newspapers, al-Zawahri said: "They did it on purpose and they continue to do it without apologizing, even though no one dares to harm Jews or to challenge Jewish claims about the Holocaust nor even to insult homosexuals." Al-Zawahri, wearing a black turban and seated in front of a curtained window, spoke insistently and waved his right hand to emphasize his words.
"The insults against Prophet Muhammad are not the result of freedom of opinion but because what is sacred has changed in this culture," he said. "The Prophet Mohammed, prayers be upon him, and Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, are not sacred anymore, while Semites and the Holocaust and homosexuality have become sacred."
Source: [MSNBC]
Support for Hamas
In the video broadcast on the satellite network, Al-Zawahri also offered his support to Hamas, the militant Islamic group that is forming a new Palestinian government after sweeping legislative elections. He complained that the previous Palestinian leadership had "sold Palestine."
"Recognizing those people is against Islam's principles. They are criminals in the Islamic balance," he said. "Palestine is not their own property that they can give up." Speaking of Palestine and Iraq, al-Zawahri said: "We have to be aware of the American game called 'political process.'"
"Bush, the caller for democracy, threatened Hamas in his State of the Union speech to cut assistance unless it recognizes Israel, abandons Jihad and abides by the agreements of surrender between the (Palestinian) Authority and Israel ... I would like to tell my brothers in Palestine that reaching power is needed to implement Islamic rule," he said.
An Al-Jazeera official declined to say who gave the videotape to the network.
Al-Zawahri, Osama bin Laden's deputy, has issued several video and audiotapes in the past year. His last video came on Jan. 31, in which he threatened a new attack against the United States. Bin Laden and al-Zawahri are believed to be in hiding along the rugged Pakistan-Afghan border.
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I find it very interesting that al-Zawahri says disparagingly, “Semites and the Holocaust and homosexuality have become sacred.” This is fascinating because Abraham (Ibrahim), who both Arabs and Jews claim as their ancestor, was in fact a Semite. It wouldn’t seem to be very reverent of him to lump Abraham and his people together with the homosexuals. You would think a guy who is killing dozens of innocents every month in the name of his religion would at least know this kind of stuff.
It’s nice to see he has respect for Jesus, but I’m not sure if Jesus would return the compliment – although he was a very forgiving guy.
It’s also very interesting that Hamas hasn’t exactly welcomed his offer of support. Perhaps a small ray of sunshine is coming through the cloud of fanaticism?
Posted by: Moderate | Mar 6, 2006 10:30:46 PM
The Muslim psyche is amazing al-Zawahri is complaining because the US is cutting off aid to Hamas, a terrorist organization, now an official terrorist government, next al-Zawahri will complain the U is not funding Al-Quaida
Posted by: baxter | Mar 9, 2006 10:58:08 AM
Good Lord if it ain't Ms. Jaxter
Great minds do stink alike, and here you are minutes ahead of me the first nurse on the scene ready to give the good Dr. Zwahiri his morning enema. Please let Dr. Crazyhorse give you a helping hand.
Posted by: crazyhorse | Mar 9, 2006 2:14:51 PM
My only thought on Dr. Zawahiri is the pleasant thought that his medical practice has probably gone to shit due to political and military priorities, and the optomistic hope that he is the physisian still attending Osama BinLaden's delicate condition. I doubt if Dr. Zawahiri will concurr, but I believe that both he and Osama look to have a heart proble and that proble we have should be treated quickly with Nitro Glycerine in mass dossages. What do you think nurse?
Posted by: crazyhorse | Mar 9, 2006 2:30:07 PM
Crazyhorse, you're in good form as usual. Give the bastards both barrels, and the devil take the hindmost.
Posted by: jaxter | Mar 11, 2006 1:07:45 PM
I would give my attention to the enduring US government backed "intelligence" info that insists on touting Osama and Zhawahiri as being in the NW Pakistan Pashtun tribal areas. This continuing CIA backed rumor that is obediently parroted by the US media time and time again is I believe a totally incorrect assumption, and a totally misleading smoke screen to hide US reluctance to confront the real Osama related political sensitivity problem of Saudi government intelligence involvement in his "fugitive" elusiveness. The safest place on earth right now for Osama bin Laden is in south western Saudi Arabia within the North Yemeni/Saudi border area near the Red Sea coastal mountain districts. This area is not too far from a modern hospital in Sanaa Yemen or even Dubai's modern metropolitan center surgical facilities, and this is a very nice coastal resort type of isolated country needed-far from prying western eyes for Osama's medical R and R after the rigors of a difficult military service in Afghanistan. this area is a former Islamic refuge/haunt of Zhawahiri and is Osama's father's traditional homeland where many of the bin Laden clan of Mujhadeen zealots still live. Remember that the escape of the US Cole bombers and 23 Al Queida fighters from a Yemeni prison recently occurred here, and that the Yemen government is definitly leaning away from any former American sympathies. This area would enable Saudi Arabia to disassociate itself from Osama and Zhawahiri as being in disputed Yemen/Saudi territory if any western attention was to be directed to this as their actual refuge location. How many searches for Osama and Zhawahri have been conducted in this region, and how many will be in the near future?
Posted by: crazyhorse | Mar 15, 2006 4:26:33 AM
firstly it is a grave insult to insult Mohammed. it is a grave inhumane act to be violent, but it is also WRONG to insult Mohammed. it is a CRIME and those who wrote and printed the cartoons should be imprisoned for 6 months. those who condone the cartoons are as bad as those who condone the violent protests. all wrong in the eyes of ALLAH
secondly 8 healthy young men were given MEDICAL DRUGS in London Northwick park hospital. 6 who took the real drug are gravely ill. ALLAH saved a MUSLIM MAN this fate and he is well. it was not a gamble or that he was lucky not to have the 3/4 chance of taking the fateful dose. he had faith in ALLAH to save him.
Zaki Badawi RIP.
Posted by: Mohin | Mar 16, 2006 2:03:04 PM
Christian groups are demonstrating against jerry springer the opera, they find it offensive and nobody has a problem against them finding it offensive. yet if Muslims find the cartoons offensive they are treated with scorn. those who protested violently in London have been arrested, but why vilify the peaceful protesters at the same time?
last year Sikhs in Birmingham violently attacked a theatre where a play against Sikhs was shown and the play was stopped from running. there was no outcry about them taking away 'freedom of speech'.
Posted by: Nazanin | Mar 16, 2006 3:21:28 PM
To Nazanin
You seem to have missed the vital element of Islamic over-reaction on a GOBAL scale of murder, arson, and general mayhem. All this against 12 cartoons that most people understand as expressing satire and scorn not for Islam, but for those Islamic Jihadists throughout Islam who have chosen to kill thousands in the name of the prophet. In our western culture we make and enforce the laws against such acts, and until Islamic countries and populations do the same western satirists and others will continue to call you on it. Free speech against the FAITH does not exist in most Islamic cultures, and Muslims need to see this most obvious blemish on something that otherwise has within it most of those best qualities of humanity.
Posted by: crazyhorse | Mar 18, 2006 11:38:56 AM
I think the real irony here is that, whatever you may think of the cartoons, they were... cartoons. Yet they have spawned months of violent protest and many deaths. One might think that there would be far greater and longer-lasting protests by Muslims against those who are using Islam as an excuse to actually kill many, many innocent people. Aren't these far greater crimes against Islam - and humanity? But, in fact, such protest have been relatively few and far between.
It is also ironic that al-Zawahri, a mass murderer, feels so put out by these cartoon artocities that he tries to add fuel to the fire. Where are the protests against him and his pious group of merry men?
There are many examples of this sort of extreme double standard. (Where were the mass protests against Saddam?) It appears that the Islamic world judges the severity of a crime almost entirely by whether it is committed by a believer or an infidel.
If infidels are held in such contempt, you should not also have higher standards for them. You can't have it both ways.
Posted by: Moderate | Mar 18, 2006 9:18:43 PM
while the cultures of some Muslim extremists is wrong, it is an arrogance to say that the 21st century west is perfect. we hear about bad things in the Muslim world, but also bad things in 'civilized' world. the western world supports all kinds of uncivilized behaviour: drunkeness, abortion, death penalty of innocent people, bombing innocent people, torturing innocent people and the west is full of murderers and rapists and abusers and violence. this is not to say Muslim countries don't have these problems too - but what is right and wrong should not be determined by nationality or religion or race.
Posted by: nazanin | Mar 19, 2006 5:24:00 PM
mobin, it's also a grave sin to be as stupid as you appear to be. The sin is not with the cartoonist, but with someone idiotic enough to be driven to violence over something so trivial and meaningless. It would be far better if instead of putting the cartoonist in prison for 6 mos we took you and other Islamic fanatics like you, stood you up in a line and used an Israeli Uzi machine pistol to vent the bile in your vile being. After all of your ignorance was spilled out and soaked up in the ground we could all sit down and have a few laughs nad maybe draw a few cartoons.
Posted by: baxter | Mar 20, 2006 3:21:02 PM
nazanin we definitely need to line you up beside of mobin because you're just as stupid as he is. It amazes me how illogical you Muslims are. It's like the clash of the 13th century against the 21st century. There's no solution to this other then root out the blight sterilize it and prevent it ever arising again. Islam is the religion of fools, Mohammed is the son Os Satan.
Posted by: baxter | Mar 20, 2006 3:27:18 PM
the biggest threat from Muslim terrrorists would be if they joined the British and American armed forces and used the weapons against us. look at the damage they did with passenger planes, imagine what they could do with fighter planes? Muslims should not be allowed in our armies. anyone remember the Muslim American soldier who killed some of his colleagues by throwing a grenade into their camp? that's just a warning of worse things that could happen. I'm not anti-Muslim nor do i have anything against normal Muslims, but we've got to be vigilant and not politically correct.
Posted by: YAYAYAYAYAYA | Mar 21, 2006 12:17:14 PM
Baxter, you sound an arse mate.
Posted by: YAYAYAYAYAYA | Mar 21, 2006 12:19:12 PM
Dr. Zhwahiri is an embittered old Muslim soul who has been driven crazy by the excesses of the traditional hardline Islamic society and its universally ruthless leaders. Those power hungry rich Muslim men and women elite of Islam supporters of the faith who indulge with or without the Western influence in the worship of any available road to power. Fellow Egyptian Muslims tortured the man beyond the limits of his endurance, and his blind hatred was generated in maniac transference to include every other western secular citizen in the world as somehow being behind his Egyptian military tormentors. Zhwahiri challenged the Egyptian power hierachy and reaped the harvest of their wrath, and in order to keep his own religious population in a state of Allah's grace placed the guilt for his punishment by his co-religionists/peers to billions of unrelated secular non-participants.
The unbalanced Doctor then got on his knees to the Arabian Whahabbi bank rollers of terrorism, and begged for their help in his mania for Islamic "justice." Sharia "justice" an intangible that is universally defined within the Whahabbi philosophy as anything that,if it hurts Islam and Muslims its obviously everybody else in the world's fault.
In his painful delusion It could not and was not just Islamic monsters alone that ordered the beating and tormenting of Zhwahiri, but it was the western infidels influence that caused these potentially good Muslim leaders to be inhuman to him and others in the "Islamic Brotherhood." It couldn't be/wasn't the hard inhuman edge of Muslim doctrine that traditionally caused the stoning of faithless Muslim wives, the cutting off of the hands of theives, and the "religiously" mandated killing of any Muslim who would choose another gentler religion that cause Muslims to ignore Allah's commands to compassion and torture their own unmercyfully. Zhwahiri is now in a sheltered place provided by the Whahabbi overlords of Saudi Arabian terror, and has himself finally after killing and torturing enough innocent people himself indulged in the higher levels of the traditional Islamic lust for power!.
Posted by: crazyhorse | Mar 24, 2006 2:18:20 PM
yayayayay, I am an arse, if you define an arse as someone who desires to deal with a situation before it becomes insurmountable, if you define and arse as a general that desires to attack his opponent while he has the tactical advantage, if you define an arse as someone that is greatly alarmed at a religions insane reaction to something as silly as a cartoon, that rallies around such a silly ass issue, I'm a major ass sir, because I find this scary as hell... This isn't something that will be gone and lost tomorrow, this is a tide that has been gathering strength and is sweeping forward amassing volume readying to overtake all the sensible world.. I'm a major fucking arse sir because i'm not a fool.
Posted by: baxter | Mar 27, 2006 11:27:14 AM
Baxter, YAYAYAYAYAYA has actually suggested something sensible in case you missed it. (and i don't just mean his opinion of you.) I work with Muslim doctors who are extremely trustable and dependable. but I have to admit I would feel uneasy about Muslims in the armed forces.
Posted by: TXT | Mar 27, 2006 4:52:25 PM
Baxter please read this and please stop calling Islam evil. it is hurtful to Muslims.
Exploding the myth
One of the many short comings which has arisen in the West, is judging Islam by the conduct of a minority of its people. By doing this, segments of Western society have deliberately played off the desperate actions of many Muslims, and have given it the name of Islam. Such behaviour is clearly not objective and seeks to distort the reality of Islam. For if such a thing was done - judge a religion by the conduct of its people - then we too could say that all Christianity is about is child molesting and homosexuality [1] whilst Hinduism was all about looting and breaking up mosques [2]. Generalising in such a manner is not seen as being objective, yet we find that the Western world is foremost in propagating this outlook on Islam. So what is the reality of Islam? How does one dispel the myths which have been created and spread so viciously? The only way to examine Islam is to simply examine its belief system. Look at its sources, the Qur'an and Sunna, and see what they have to say. This is the way to find the truth about what Islam says about terror, terrorism and terrorists. One who is sincerely searching for the truth, will do it no other way. The very name Islam comes from the Arabic root word 'salama' which means peace. Islam is a religion which is based upon achieving peace through the submission to the will of Allah. Thus, by this very simple linguistic definition, one can ascertain as to what the nature of this religion is. If such a religion is based on the notion of peace, then how is it that so many acts done by its adherents are contrary to peace? The answer is simple. Such actions, if not sanctioned by the religion, have no place with it. They are not Islamic and should not be thought of as Islamic.
Posted by: kamul | Mar 27, 2006 5:14:15 PM
kamul, you don't know what you're talking about.... Islam is a monstrous religion,... Islams reaction to silly cartoons. Let's the western world know just how crazy and monstrous you are.
Posted by: baxter | Mar 27, 2006 6:28:06 PM
To those Muslims who would live in harmony with the secular world of the west and say to this Blog "What can I do to change Islam into something recognized by my western brother as what it is, a beautiful creation of peace." I would cite for your study and reference the record of Christianity back to fifteenth century Europe when a theocratic monster was recognized to be obviously residing in the Pope's Roman throne of recognizably unholy power. Millions of European people after years of bloody reform finally gave up entirely their most holy geographical location of faith the Vatican. Ultimately that Christian reform and a hundred years of sectarian war in the end brought even orthodox Catholicism and its Popes to a more decent and just acceptance of the new servant of Christ, the limited democracy of secular constitutional law and government.
Islamic people who would keep the tenets of the faith in a context of traditional peace and compassion as issued by the Prophet Mohammed also must perhaps make a simular hard choice of god's true location in their present circumstance of current religious/political reality. I believe it is possible for Muslims to remain faithful to Allah, but say farewell and yield up Mecca to the Whahabbi fundamentalist warmongering corrupt (your "Islamic" monster) who have not Allah in their hearts. Then you will no longer venerate or financially support the site and central authority (and "Jihad")of the now abandoned as obviously profaned, unclean and presently unholy birthplace of the Prophet Mohammed. You must bring your God like the Protestants did directly to yourself, and western Muslims recognizing the wisdom of secular government must say as a reformed Islam that Allah does not live in a single "place" but resides within the heart of the every believer in his divinity. As all decent peace loving Islamic people who have made the pilgrimage well know not just the terrorist Mujhadeen have profaned Islam, but rather those greedy globally ambitious Caliphate usurper those Arabic creators of a Whahabbi dominated Mecca and Islamic doctrine who are primarily the clan dynasties of "Islam" most responsible for spreading contemporary "Jihad" blood lust, dead ended dogmatic social/political hypocracy and their non Islamic and corrupt doctrines of hate. If you choose to stay with "your" (an Islamic) Pope's corruption centered in what has become "your" profaned Vatican of filth then the Islamic faith, your families, and your culture may in the end find disaster in the west, and no secular welcome generated towards the faith of Allah or any recognition of his Prophet's true message of "peace."
This vast agenda to salvation and coexistence that I mention as a possible historic parallel of religious philosophy for the western Muslim's individual/collective consideration is without doubt a long and immense spiritual journey of great mortal and cosmic danger as it was in the fifteen hundreds of European religious reforms. It is all that I as a poor secular believer in God's power and love for human kind can see/offer. May peace be upon those who want it enough to be counted as God's thinking creation.
Posted by: crazyhorse | Apr 4, 2006 2:38:10 PM
